Dumb idea on reflection. But if it means that whole topic is kept from the main, I for 1 am happy. I understand the reasoning behind the removal of the thread and is why I actually asked it be shut down. It was quickly on the road to ruin and I dont want that here and I doubt most others want it here either.
RR3 is part of my escape from reality so to speak. I'll do better in future.
If there are any comments outside of the Thread Hulk started, please feel free to show me! If you want to have a better discussion please join our Discord channel (https://discord.gg/JmbUmm) and/or send me a PM on Discord.
Thanks - I'll look you up on Discord a little later. No specific comments outside of that thread, but I've always believed that if somebody tells you who they are, you should listen to them. I find it very hard to just delete a comment and then go on as if nothing has ever happened.
I read through the thread again (just to be sure I didn't miss anything). There are some strong opinions expressed there, but non that are racist in nature. There are comments from which one can conclude a person is (or can be) a racist, but that is solely looking at which part of the spectrum you are. Does a statement which says that the BLM vinyls shouldn't be in the game indicate if you are a racist, ostrich (don't look at the problem and it's not there) or does it state that the game should not carry a political opinion.
I really understand your comment and I also really understand what you are saying. I will have a quick chat with the Admin team about the whole thread today. It's not up to just me to leave it or remove it. On the Wiki it's not our job to censor, but to guide. Clearly this thread is unseen so far, but it will be dealt with!
I refer specifically to the comment alleging "white people invented the engine, while black people only burn things". While the words were different, the intention of the comment was clear. That is not merely airing an opinn, that is bare-faced racism.
I'm really disgusted with what is happening in this wiki in the last few days. We have clearly found that our community is full of racists and homophobes.
I hope that you (admins) will take a strong position against any kind of discrimination, whether it is about race, sexual orientation or anything else. There is no place for those thoughts on this wiki.
We already have some rules about it, but clearly they are not enough. People should not be allowed to make any similar remarks, whether they're subtle or evident.
RealNoob just to be clear: As admins we have an obligation to keep the Wiki 'clean'. We do however not censor anything as long as it is within 'common' boundaries. Comments that are clearly racist, bigot, homophobic or anything similar will be removed and that person will be dealt with (mostly verbal at first, banned if needed). With comments that can be interpreted as racist, etc. we have to be very careful. We do not censor. I am a big supporter of freedom of speech.
BLM (and Pride last week) are very sensitive subjects. Deleting posts, removing/editing comments and or banning users will be done when consensus or a majority vote within the Admin team is reached. Because of different Time Zones this can take a few hours. That is why I already locked the thread and put in a (in my opinion) very clear statement.
Please find me on Discord (link above) to have an open discussion or comment here if you feel we (as Admins or me in particular) do not respond sufficiently in your opinion.
I'll just say that I find it intriguing how people get offended by something that doesn't affect them at all and I talk about that Pride TT here. More LGBT people can only mean less competition for you for non-LGBT girls/women (majority of us here are males so...). It's a win-win situation, lol.
Some people have a clear opinion against BLM and Pride and want to let everybody know (but same goes for Covid-19 and the lock-downs). Some just want to be left alone and don't want to think about such matters. Some just couldn't care.
DH this is exactly the kind of comments that will only make things worse! In the USA it's BLM at the moment, in China it's Han Chinese, in the Middle East it's Christianity and more and more and more. The whole world if full of racists and racism. It's all in perspective.
The comment below the TT was clearer to me. It was hateful and it's really hard to come up with any interpretation that would not find queer folx (or, at best, LGBT+ activism) as the object of that hate. The comment referred to here is more indicative of ignorance. It's stupid to claim "all lives matter" in the West, where poor and "coloured" folx are routinely denied equal treatment. It's asinine to claim that the fist stands for "fire and destruction" when it has been a symbol of resistance to (often purely economic) oppression, especially police violence. To make such statements, you must have a very skewed view of Western history and a very slim knowledge of the history of "racial" relations in the West. But you don't need to hate Black people to make them.
If FM intend to keep this thing going in the future, the updates better come with trigger warnings...
I don't get why people are so triggered by Pride month and BLM.
Neither the Pride event nor the new vinyls does any harm to anybody. They don't change any of the existing content -- they're just there. One can choose to participate (and get bonus gold and new vinyls in return), or can just leave it alone and continue to play the game as it is. No big deal.
Just like the Halloween, Christmas, and St.Patrick's day vinyls, along with the Easter paint jobs. These are all Christian celebrations. A lot of people, including myself, are not Christian, and I haven't heard anyone complain or get offended, about the game being "religious" or "biased" towards a religion.
So why will you get mad about Pride month and BLM?
Just found this thread. Let me be clear on 2 things. I am not a homophobe, because I know moar then 1500 other species demonstrate same-sex cohabitation that do not have our cognitive abilities. Me cracking a joke about multiple letters insnt intolerance, its humour. My gay friends think I am funny. Oh, I have gay friends and family? Gee, that's not easy when being a hater as I am
I am not a racist, because I know the whole race debate is a faux arguement to divide people. Forget I myself am half islander in ancestry. Also not easy being the hatrer I am.
I dropped discord months back. I dont see it as a good idea I now come there for this discussion. Both discussions are weaponized to invoke emotive conflict between the masses.
Was good you were here at the right time. You caught it quick. I was suspicious straight away, but I let it slide a day too long. Anywho, enough said. You and other Admin here do excellent bipartisan work
RR3-AG wrote: Thx! I know you get 'over-excited' sometimes ;-)
Yeah, I have to always remember exactly where I am when here. I wouldnt have sworn, I woulda just called it out straight away anywhere else. Too many coincidences for my liking. Its all good. I leik to think Im not earning the ire of you and admin here as much, or less or not at all. Im always the work in progress in this family friendly sandbox. =oP
If you really want to score (legit) points then just run the game and edit Series that have wrong data (if there are any) or wait for the update on Monday and run the new events and edit those. Just make sure you understand the Wiki Rules and make sure you read manuals how to enter the data correctly.
I was a bit quick and dirty removing the video. My apologies!
The reason I removed it was because it does not only demonstrate the glitch (which IMO is funny and could/should/might be within the boundaries of the rules), but it also shows the outcome (high Top Speed and very high R$) and therefore is considered a direct reveal of an exploit. Please remove the video....