Real Racing 3 Wiki:Sandbox/Tips and FAQ for Retro Rivals

Retro Rivals is due to start Saturday 4th July 2015 the last time to start the event is 9 days later, 13th July. The event will take 5 days to complet the 5 stages

The intention of this page is to keep tips and FAQ for Retro Rivals in one place, which will hopefully help people race this event.

Tips and FAQ History
This is the forth iteration of a tips and FAQ page:
 * RR3 Michael P created tips for The 500's Tips and FAQ for The 500.
 * Guillejarque created a tips page for Project Impulse's challenge The Renault-Nurburgring-Race Teams update and blog for tips
 * RR3 Michael P created tips once more for Le Mans - Pursuit of Victory's Tips and FAQ for Le Mans - Pursuit of Victory
 * Guillejarque created a tips page once more for Le Mans - Pursuit of Victory, with Porsche.

Each time the tips have improved. Unfortunately due to the way forum posts and blogs work, only the originator RR3 Michael P or Guillejarque can edit the first entry. With Tips and FAQ for Retro Rivals anyone can edit this page, hopefully this will lead to many more editors adding useful content for everyone’s benefit.

General Tips
Read the following about how the time shifted multiplayer affects the AI of the bots, why it's important to win by small margins and how to slow bots down: This is the bots order (from faster to slower):
 * Time Shifted Multiplayer

Rattlesnack Auralpod darknezz MiceOrMan stayFrosty hoodooVoodoo Keed07 SpeedyParkins Eraser The Raven Richie Rich Ghast fortz99 Modesto Lingerfelter JimBling merrygold _thefreak_ Sparx BronsonGuthry drollted PerturB jojo76 morkRING oooo! Oddly LOLOLOL JKR JackKnife Existent Brioche Kranger PungentSauce HeAt miintCrystal turnipage Propeller Factory FishMang Aaron Doyle Weaver Eric Hertz Batliner Tiesha Francione Gayle Lokan Jerrel Omo Rosamund Mahula Brosig Dane Rabenould Marcel Corrigeux Moises Gabby

Start / End Strategy
You have 5 days to complete the 5 stages, the event is 5 days x 24 hours. The first stage will start the time you start it, the last stage will end 5 x 24 hours later. As stage 01 is normally straight forward and can be completed without an upgrade or service, it can be started late in the day, it doesn't matter if you don't complete stage 01 the first day, you can continue the following day. The next stage 02, will unlock at midnight the following day, stage 03 the following day at midnight and so on , until stage 5, this will unlock 4 midnights later, but stage 5 will not complete until 5 x 24 hours = 120 hours have elapsed from the start time.

For example:

Start Tue @ 7:30 PM the event will end 5 days x 24 hours later, Sunday @ 7:30 PM,

The above is an example, this will give 41.5 hours to complete stage 5. You could start as soon as stage 01 is unlocked at midnight, say you start at 00:01, you will have 24 hour + 1 minute to complete day 5, or if you are a night owl, you could start stage 01 @ 23:30 and have 47.5 hours! It's your choice. This will give Saturday and Sunday to complete stage 5.


 * Update 3-July: 121.128.227.115 has posted a fixed start time world wide for the first day, this only affects Saturday 4th July  start day. Making starting the following day (or in my case Tuesday) a more practical start time and day:

121.128.227.115 wrote: Start time:
 * New York 4:30am
 * Mexico City 3:30am
 * Sydney 6:30pm
 * Tokyo 5:30pm
 * Shanghai 4:30pm
 * Jakarta 3:30pm
 * New Delhi 2:00pm
 * Dubai 12:30pm
 * Moscow 11:30am
 * Paris 10:30am
 * London 9:30am
 * Sao Paulo 5:30am

You need to choose the best time for you to start Retro Rivals event, or more importantly when is the best time for you to end the event!

Given the bug testing and bug fixes for Le Mans - Pursuit of Victory though the fist 10 days, at least four bug fixes. I would therefore recommend you not start Saturday 4th July, instead leave the start for a day or two. Personally I will be starting late Tuesday 8th July.

Cloud Save / Restore
See the Firemonkeys website for full details on cloud save:

Firemonkeys.com.au Cloud Save FAQ

Firemonkey wrote: Real Racing 3 automatically uploads your save data to the Cloud Servers once every 12 Hours. This means that if you have lost your save data, you can easily restore your

previous game progress (including your purchases) and also transfer this save data between devices using the Cloud Save feature.

During events you can use the Cloud Save and Restore feature to your advantage.

Before you start every event, manually do a Cloud Save,  if you loose do a cloud restore,  this will save a 3 hour 55 min repair after the longer, endurance / cup events.

Once you win do another cloud save before you continue the next event, see the FAQ on Firemonkey's website: It is very important to wait for the screen to display last updated seconds (or minutes) ago. If you have a message stating backup failed, wait another minute, a wheel will turn in the bottom right corner, the message will show last updated seconds (or minutes) ago and Backup to Cloud button will be greyed out too.
 * FM FAQ RR3 Cloud Save - How to Backup your save to the Cloud

If backup still failed, return to the login screen, log off, wait 10 seconds and log on once more, click continue, wait 30 seconds for the login to complete, then try to backup once more.

If you still have problems: log off, then turn aeroplane mode on, wait 10 seconds, turn aeroplane mode off, wait 30 seconds for the wifi to reconnect, login, click continue, wait 30 seconds for the login to complete, then try to backup once more.

The final thing to try, force close the RR3 app, then with the Wifi on, relaunch RR3, then try to backup once more. If this still doesn't work, the FM server is probably having problems, again.

You can also use this technique to save on spending with gold, for example if you want to spend 1 gold on the mechanic, if you win, the mechanic will be used and the car condition will be maintained, but if you don't come first the gold is lost and the car condition will be reduced, if you cloud restore the car will be returned to it previous state and the gold spend (or even free mechanic) returned.
 * FM FAQ RR3 Cloud Save - How to Restore your Save from the Cloud

Note: Before you cloud restore, it is important to login into the same Social Profiles you had previously connected to Real Racing, when cloud saving. Especially if multiple Social Profiles are used!

Car Service
How can I service the car when I already finished the day?

If you missed servicing your car after the final event on the day, the soonest you can service is midnight, when the next stage is unlocked.

The Target is too High, How do I Reduce it?
When the speed or time or distance is too high or fast or long, there are several things that can be done to reduce the target

Make sure you cloud save before you start and after a handful of failed attempts try a cloud restore and retry the next method. Sometimes the AI is still reduced after the restore.


 * Try offline - if you've been online, you must do a force close too.


 * Try online - sometimes the AI target is different.


 * Try repeat, repeat, repeat, again loose by a big margin, don't come higher than 4th.


 * Try loosing by a big margin, but don't retry, instead complete and then re-enter the race - this takes more time but works.

Sorry this takes so much time, but the AI will reduce. With a cloud restore it's quicker than a long service!

For example, I tried 11 times to reach 1st place:

The Game / Le Mans Keeps crashing

 * If you are having problems loading Le-Mans: Le Mans is the biggest data track to load, close the game, go off line (aeroplane mode), try a complete showdown (hold the power for 10 seconds, I think), then start back up, launch the game and turn the Heads-up Display (HUD) off. This helps on my Hudl.

I read a post suggesting using the RR3 Graphics app (AKA RR3 GFX) available from the Google Play Store, (then automatically updating it from their website). The poster advised Le Mans used to crash, but when the graphics is set low, using this app, it loads and plays fine. Anyway, it doesn't seem to be any race in Le Mans during Retro Rivals.

Credit: TBC

App source: RR3 graphics: This app lets you set a desired video graphics quality for RR3 game.

Webpage for more information: hitex.lt RR3 Graphics Project

When is the last time I can start this Event?
The exact last start day is unknown, from history I would say at least a couple of weeks. Historically I have even had adverts prompting me to start the event, even when I had finished it. From past events, I expect the next release of RR3 will follow on from this one and if Retro Rivals is started, any new event can not be started until this one has ended.

Guillejarque wrote: I want to reveal the next update date. According to the Race Teams competition, the release date of the update should be 28/07/2015. That means you can start playing Retro Rivals during 20 days (4th until 23rd). So the preview should come 24th (previous Friday).

Will this event be added to the race series?
My best guess is The 500 will be the next one to be added to the series, I don't know for sure, but there is a pattern to challenges being added to the series. Look the the special events at the bottom of Races and Price Special Events and compare how many have been added to the Race Series

It maybe months before this event is added to a series, again this is a fairly recent pattern from FM of added past events to series, after two to three months.

Will the car be available to win in the future?
If you didn't complete the Retro Rivals event the first time, if and when the event is re-released into the series, you can replay it and win the car. The previous release of RR3 added two of the three Ferrari events to the series, see Race Series, you can see Redline: Origins and MotorFiesta 1 have been added as special events, the third Scuderia Ferrari Championship one was re-released Scuderia Ferrari Championship/New, maybe that will be added in the future. I couldn't actually replay them, as I completed them the first time.

Can I buy the car?
The Lamborghini Countach is available in the Clash Of The Classics race in the legend Series. It can be purchased for 210 (or 168  in Clash Of The Classics's showcase event)

If you start to play the event, all upgrades, customizations and VIP will remain on the car permanently, whether you acquire it from this event or buy it later.

What is the minimum PR / upgrades required
We don't know the exact details of goals and tracks, but thanks to Hardik Sukhadiya for extracting all the descriptions for every event from the RR3 script files, so we have an idea of the event descriptions.

Usually, all Level 1 upgrades should be enough. Anyway, maybe you will have to buy some upgrades with gold, just as happened in the Speedrush TV Challenge.

RR3 Michael P wrote: My recommendation is to start the level 1 upgrades as soon as the event is started, as they only take 30 minutes, play the first three events, which can be done without upgrades. Wait for the upgrades to complete, then start the level 2 upgrades which take 1 hour 15 min, there is no need to wait for them to complete before doing event 4. Remember to service the Lamborghini Countach after event 4.

How much do the upgrades cost?
For car details see here:
 * Lamborghini Countach

For full details on upgrades with PR see here:
 * RR3 Wiki:Upgrades Section (Classic Version) - Every care in the game with upgrade and PR values. - Direct link to the Countach

Game Navigation

 * Races and Price - Most profitable races & Series & Races Including best race for each series
 * Race Series - List of every race in the same order, that they are displayed in the game
 * List of all cars (Base Stats) - Every car in the game with no upgrades
 * List of all cars (fully upgraded) - Every car in the game with fully upgraded stats
 * RR3 Wiki:Upgrades Section (Classic Version) - Every care in the game with upgrade and PR values.
 * Real Racing 3 Wiki:Sandbox/Tips and FAQ for Retro Rivals - Tips and FAQ for Retro Rivals

Editing

 * How to add event data using the Challenge Template? - Challenge pages
 * How do I edit pages for Racing series? - Racing pages
 * Real Racing 3 Wiki:Sandbox - Useful for tests and trials

Strategy

 * Strategy - Including why gold is precious.
 * Time Shifted Multiplayer - TSM algorithm and AI, whys it's important to win by small margins and how to slow bots down
 * How often does a car need servicing? - Interesting information on car damage per race
 * List of sales so far - Every car on sale since 2013 ! Useful for planning to buy an expensive car.

<font color="#FFFF00">External sites

 * Real Racing's Facebook page
 * Real Racing's Twitter page
 * FireMonkey's RR3 home page
 * FireMonkey's Announcements and FAQ home page
 * FireMonkey's Community help page

<font color="#FFFF00">Stage 01
Tips about Retro Rivals Stage 01:

<font color="#00FF00">Event 1: MrJC wrote:

1st stage was extremely easy and short. The event might be possible with just R$ upgrades.

Guillejarque wrote: 

Very easy goal, just overtake by the exterior, trying to not put any wheel off track. The bots are the slowest ones.

RR3 Michael P wrote: My tip is to start the level 1 upgrades as soon as the event is started, as they only take 30 minutes, play the first three events, which can be done without upgrades. Wait for the upgrades to complete, then start the level 2 upgrades which take 1 hour 15 min, there is no need to wait for them to complete before doing event 4. Remember to service the Lamborghini Countach after event 4.

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<font color="#00FF00">Event 3: 1.152.96.82 wrote:

Going to add the first tip, assuming the txt doesn't change. For any event that says finsh 1st/2nd/3rd OR 'do another task and finish outside the top 3', Do the second one or you will increase the difficulty of the AI.

Events 1.3 and 1.4 are good examples and I will take the second option and aim to finish 6th and 12th respectively.

The trade off is you may have more servicing if you are doing the whole race.

Guillejarque wrote: 

Again, very very easy, the slowest bots possible, just look at their names: Moises Gabby is the last. Overtake is very easy as your car is faster than the Shelbies.

<font color="#00FF00">Event 4:

1.152.96.82 wrote:

Going to add the first tip, assuming the txt doesn't change. For any event that says finsh 1st/2nd/3rd OR 'do another task and finish outside the top 3', Do the second one or you will increase the difficulty of the AI.

Events 1.3 and 1.4 are good examples and I will take the second option and aim to finish 6th and 12th respectively.

The trade off is you may have more servicing if you are doing the whole race.

LuxCal wrote:

There was no need to service. 1.4 was easy with a trashed car.

Credit: 1.152.96.82, LuxCal, MrJC, Guillejarque, RR3 Michael P ... and everyone else who have posted comments.

<font color="#FFFF00">Stage 02
Tips about Retro Rivals Stage 02:

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Credit:  ...  and everyone else who have posted comments.

<font color="#FFFF00">Stage 03
Tips about Retro Rivals Stage 03:

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<font color="#00FF00">Event 2: 1.152.96.82 wrote:

Going to add the first tip, assuming the txt doesn't change. For any event that says finsh 1st/2nd/3rd OR 'do another task and finish outside the top 3', Do the second one or you will increase the difficulty of the AI.

Will accept that 3.2 may change my approach, overtake 40 times!

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Credit: 1.152.96.82 ... and everyone else who have posted comments.

<font color="#FFFF00">Stage 04
Tips about Retro Rivals Stage 04:

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Credit:  ...  and everyone else who have posted comments.

<font color="#FFFF00">Stage 05
Tips about Retro Rivals Stage 05:

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Credit:  ...  and everyone else who have posted comments.

<font color="#F08080">Benefit
Calculated benefits of the event:

(Can be calculated from the figures before starting day and figures after completion of day 5)

<font color="#F08080">Credit and Thanks
BIG credit and thank you to Hardik Sukhadiya for extracting all the descriptions for every event from the RR3 script files.

Thank you, to everyone who have left comments and tips, for a five day event!

<font color="#F08080">Comments and Tips
If you have any tips, please either edit the relevant section of this page and add them yourself* or leave comments on the Retro Rivals Comments and an editor will add them later.

Note: * This page will be hot - many people editing per day, so please add you tips and save quickly, it maybe a good idea to write the comment or tip in notepad (or notepad++). Then edit the relevant section, paste in the tip, and publish quickly. Hopefully this will avoid editing conflicts, where multiple editors are editing the same section at the same time.

Please post your comments and tips, any information you feel maybe useful, such as:
 * What stage and event you are leaving a tip for, this can be shortened e.g. Tip for 1.3 is for stage 01 event 3
 * What problems you had and how to overcome the problems?
 * e.g. Can corners be cut?
 * Can an event be run with a broken car?
 * If so with what PR/upgrade?
 * What controls Tilt A / B ?
 * What assists - brakes high / low /off ? TC on / off?
 * Basically any tips that maybe useful to other racers.
 * If you are anonymous feel free to sign a name or handle.

One of the editors will summarise them and add them to the relevant event, if there is anything missing please post a comment or tip to Retro Rivals Comments and let us know ;-)