Board Thread:Game Discussion/@comment-33870577-20190421010425/@comment-33870577-20190422150927

Powerup777 wrote: Several things that go into account when talking about the cost of the car are the always-ignored aspects of winning the car in special events.

Sometimes I see the bonus event earnings included in the cost. But rarely does anyone include the fame increase. This is probably due to everyone is at a different fame balance, but regardless, it's still a valuable point to consider. That's correct but please don't forget that every single one of these recently added cars from my second post in this thread were obtainable in their respective Special Events or LTSes.

Powerup777 wrote: Also the daily awards, where often the payout over a month would turn the S2000 gold positive. Which is correct if the S2000 GT is/was the only new car in this release. Otherwise we can use that reasoning to FU some hypothetical 8.8 PR car for 439 - that's less than two months of daily login awards, eh.

Powerup777 wrote: Thus only FU was considered because that's the end point for each car in RR3 and you can't spend more nor make it even stronger than its max PR is.
 * For flat out ROI, RR3Level500 is spot on. Please take into account all the variables for yourself though too, many factors not mentioned. Thanks

77.253.86.145 wrote:

The question is, to what extent is all of that relevant to assessing the economic viability of 1 particular car. Daily rewards aren't affected by the car; neither are ads. With a low-level production sports car, the fame payouts will be pretty low, too. As for OMP and WTTT, all players do not own the same cars. For some, this one will be simply redundant. When I budget for an update, I start by establishing my baseline GC income. Most of it is barely affected by any particular LTS/SE/FB. If I start treating my entire income for any specific period during the update as a separate item, I won't get a single budget and I won't be able to plan ahead. In the case of S2000, one should also remember that an FU Silvia can get you the 25 GC from the same bonus series, and that any other car from the WTTT might get you to the group you usually run with :) Even if I take a hit in WTTT, I will be ahead compared to what an LTS-upgraded S2000 can get me. (Not to mention that the time spent running the LTS can be spent running more fame-profitable races...) Spot on! Well said, especially your last sentence (brackets) 👏

DrestinBlack wrote: Mildvex:

Kudos and applause. Thank you doing all that work. (I wish I had the car data in a SQL database so I could write some queries against it and produce such reports.)

I knew I was on the money (no pun intended) on the price of the Honda and now bad it is even thought it “feels” inexpensive. I think we should all expect this trend to continue; more for less as the dinosaur slowly realizes it’s dead. And yet it doesn’t have to be. Unfortunately everyone has figured out how to play for free and deprive FM’s overlords EA the profit they demand, because the cost is just too high. And just like continuing to rise taxes on already over taxed peasants in the days of old, this will fail too. People flee high taxes (or cheat them). People stay and pay when the taxes are reasonable. But... it appears that “going back” is never an option in his games future. I wish someone would steer them in a better direction. I invested so much, I’ll miss it. Thanks Drestin! Is it possible to import (as simple as possible!) all the data in a SQL? 🤔 If yes it would be amazing to see it visualized with graphs and stuff so just quote me and take it from my first post. I would do it but it's just extremely time consuming doing it "one by one", eh. Regarding EA/FM... Meh, I know that FM is in bad position but that's just their own fault. Not players' fault. Yet they're still saying how they won't slash prices. Because in their minds it's just perfectly natural to pay a new Xbox One X's cost in order to FU two virtual cars 🙄

Jfh17 wrote: Thanks for all your work putting these lists together Mildvex. This just reinforces my resolve to skip this car. I’m sure FM/EA expect many will just think it’s low upgrade costs will make people think they’re getting a decent deal, when they are getting fleeced. If I were a player with a full garage and most cars FU I’d go for it because I wouldn’t have anything else to spend GC anyway. I don’t have the luxury but glad other players are using their brains and staying away from this type of car in the hopes that this will make it a one-and-done by the greedy overlords at EA. The fame payout is minimal in this LTS IMO because these races are low payout and at approximately 6000 fame per gold coin I couldn’t see this payout being much at all. Hah yeah, it took me about two hours total, so that's in RR3 terms about 36 of equity lost as I spent that time writing the list instead of farming 😁 Thank you!