Board Thread:Game Discussion/@comment-31567784-20191206092548/@comment-27170954-20191207234055

Tommy299 wrote: ESA-Car-6O wrote: Tommy299 wrote: ESA-Car-6O wrote: I don’t know that I would use the word aggressive. They are stupid. They don’t really adjust their line based on your position on the track. What appears to be BOT aggression is really the player’s aggression clashing with unintelligent AI.

The BOTs do seem faster in some cases (which is good), but are still just moving obstacles. I tent to disagree to some parts. They try to hit me while I park outside the line or off track. So nothing to do with my driving 😉 I think we have different ways of explaining the same thing. :-)

Behaviour I observe is BOT other than 1st place will swerve under braking and mid-corner to avoid other BOTs. If you happen to be in the way, you get bumped.

The AI algorith has "some" intelligence to avoid the other AI. It doesn't work so well in packs (as evidenced aby the frequent wrecks at the beining of many races) and it does not consider where the player's car is. The caotic motion introduced when the BOT recalculates its path in the presence of BOT traffic is seen as "aggressive" only because you are in the wrong place at the right time.

The first place BOT, once the 2nd place BOT falls behind a little, will run the same predictable line. Actually, all BOTs will run the same predictable line in the absence of other BOT traffic. This is why it seems the bump you from behind or PIT you in the corner - because you are interfereing with their pre-programmed path. You can test this by following behind P1 for a couple laps. The P1 BOT will always follow the same line through the corner.

You can also test this by racing along side P1 for a long straight or even through the corners. As long as you stay off their line, the will not deviate. "Agreesive" would be leaving that line to block you. These BOTs don't do that. The only appear aggressive because they are unwavering in thier commitment to their programming. I agree to this as long as I'm in a race. All what you said is right in this context. During a race this works like that since ages.

Take COTA for example and park your car at any time during the race on the left side after the last corner half way to the finish line and look what the bots will do. At COTA the usual bot line is comming from the inside of the last left hand corner to the right side of the track follwing down this line up to the 1st corner. If you park there all bots will turn to the left and try to ram you befor they take a hard right turn to come back to the right side of the track again. It happens with all bots behind you no matter if they come alone or in groups. I'm nowhere close to them or the line they usually take and they come after me.

This is what I call aggressive. ;-) Wow, that's really wierd. I parked outside the apex and watched the BOTs pass me on a nice smooth line through that corner. Then parked up in the spot you mentioned, backed up a little so I could see backwards. The BOTs definitely followed a different line closer inside, as if the were being sucked into me. Maybe the first three or four touched me a little. After that, they would pass really slow, almost stopping and even backing up traffic a little. Sorry, I don't know how to post videos...

I think is is a programming defect. I don't think it's intended to model aggression. FM messed up in a similar way when Formula E was brought to the game. Took 'em weeks to fix it.

Wonder if its related to the drafting implementation? Perhaps the BOTs do know where you are? So they can line up and draft?