RR3 Wiki:Tips and FAQ for Daytona 500: The Great American Race

RR3 Wiki:Tips and FAQ for Daytona 500: The Great American Race

The intention of this page is to keep tips and FAQ for Daytona 500: The Great American Race in one place, which will hopefully help people race this event.

"Lead your team to victory."

- In-game description.

Description
Daytona 500: The Great American Race is an event in Real Racing 3. It gives the players a chance to win the Ford Fusion (Stewart Haas Racing), after Daytona 500 2017 Update (v5.1.0) was updated. Daytona 500: The Great American Race starts 20th February and has a 7-day limit.

The event comprises a wide range of cars, especially the Ford Fusion (Stewart Haas Racing)....##expand if required##

Stage 01
Tips about Daytona 500: The Great American Race Stage 01 (NASCAR Warmup):


 *  Tips 

RR3 Michael P wrote: Follow methods to slow bots down

Goal 1.1: NASCAR at Richmond International Raceway (Evening) [2 laps] - Win this event (Rolling Start) - Recommended PR42.6

Goal 1.2: NASCAR at Richmond International Raceway (Evening) [1 lap] - Maintain a total draft over 1093 yd (1000 m) (Rolling Start) - Recommended PR42.6

Goal 1.3: NASCAR at Richmond International Raceway (Evening) [2 laps] - Be drafted by Chip Jr. for 5 seconds and then win (Rolling Start) - Recommended PR42.6


 *  Reports 

RR3 Michael P Report Stage 1

Device: NOX PC Emulator for Android (my 2nd device)

Pre-challenge: R$30,896,322 — 1,610 — 169/179 Cars — Level 247

Car: Ford Fusion (Stewart Haas Racing) PR42.6 0/27 bought 7 R$ upgrades.

Buttons, Steering high, Brakes low and TC on, Steering Sensitivity 1. Online


 * 1.1 NASCAR @ Richmond 2 laps RS.
 * 1) 2nd 1:23 v 0:56.9 1st Chip Jr., deliberately set a slow lap, used 3 bar of damage.
 * 2) 1st 1:21 v 1:1:22 Chip Jr, passed Chip and held him up, used 3 bar of damage.


 * 1.2 1st 0:25.0 v 0:25.2 Chip Jr. drafted and passed, then braked as I reached the line, used 1 bar of damage


 * 1.3 1st 1:04 v 1:05, braked so Chip would draft me, once 5 seconds was reached stopped and held up chip, used 3 bar of damage, serviced.

Reward 5

Post-challenge: R$30,209,607 — 1,625 — 169/179 Cars — Level 247

HV2308 (level 248, Ford Fusion PR 48.5 R$ upgrades only 2212211, no assists, manual controls)

1.1. The race is really a head to head. The other car comes into sight as you are completing lap 1. Pretty straightforward. @botmanagement: try to spin the other car round or block him once you've overtaken him.

1.2 The drafting adds up, so it's OK to lose the draft and then continue where you left off. The car in front weaves and swerves a bit, so don't get too close, you'll lose the draft. Trying to keep the same speed and distance by tapping the accelarator works best for me.

1.3 Bit unclear what you had to do here, but it turned out you have to overtake Chip and then make sure he is behind you in your draft. The unclear part was that you can be right in front of him and for some reason the drafting time counter doesn't start ticking. Still, once it does you get to the 5 seconds in no time. Don't get too far ahead and don't go too slow or the draft will stop. Avoid being overtaken too, of course. Again, the totals of the drafting add up, so if you lose the draft you can carry on where you left off. Pretty easy.

All 3 events can be done without having to service. If you do want to service, remember to do it straight after race 3. After that you can't get to your car before day 2 is unlocked.

Credit: RR3 Michael P, ... and everyone else who have posted comments.

Stage 02
Tips about Daytona 500: The Great American Race Stage 02:


 *  Tips 

RR3 Michael P wrote: Continue to follow methods to slow bots down

Goal 2.1: NASCAR at Indianapolis Motor Speedway – Speedway [3 laps] - Place at least 3rd (Rolling Start) - Recommended PR45.3

Goal 2.2: Speed Snap at Indianapolis Motor Speedway – Road Course - Win this event without going off-track for more than 2 seconds - Recommended PR45.3

Goal 2.3: NASCAR at Indianapolis Motor Speedway – Speedway [3 laps] - Maintain a total draft off Danica over 2077 yd (1900m) and win (Rolling Start) - Recommended PR45.3

67.81.12.207 wrote: I tried few times 2.3, couldn't find Danica's car(

RR3 Michael P replied: Typical FM, Danica in the goal description is Patrick in game. Her full name is Danica Patrick


 *  Reports 

RR3 Michael P Report Stage 2

Device: NOX PC Emulator for Android (my 2nd device)

Pre-challenge: R$30,209,607 — 1,625 — 169/179 Cars — Level 247

Car: Ford Fusion (Stewart Haas Racing) PR46.2 7/27 bought 4 level 2 R$ upgrades.

Buttons, Steering high, Brakes low and TC on, Steering Sensitivity 1. Online


 * 2.1 1st 2:58 v 2:58, place at least 3rd, reached 1st and PIT the bots, then held them up,used 10 bar of damage


 * 2.2 1st 132.8mph v 131.2 mph Patrick, win without going off track for 2 sec, straightforward speed snap, slight dab of brake approaching the line, used 1 bar of damage


 * 2.3 1st 3:02 v 3:03 Noonan, reached 2nd and draft Patrck for ¼ lap, wasn’t continuous, then passed and PIT her, held up and PIT a few more bots, used 11 bar of damage, 1 red remaining, serviced

Reward R$15,000 and 5

Post-challenge: R$29,590,577 — 1,630 — 169/179 Cars — Level 247

HV2308 (level 248, Ford Fusion PR 48.5 R$ upgrades only 2212211, no assists, manual controls)

2.1 Pretty easy. No point in finishing higher than 3rd, it may raise the bot levels later on.

Maybe for the new players: Overtaking in Indianapolis: the place to pass is on the outside of the turns. The bots slow a lot before the turns & leave a lot of room to pass on the outside (right side / high side of the corner). The bots will hug the right hand wall on the straights, so make sure you are out of the way by then. Find a gap and slip through from the outside of the turn to the inside or middle of the track on the straights.

2.2. Didn't service after day 1 and (even though the max. speed was still 177mph) couldn't reach the target of 130-131 mph. Got to around 124 so serviced. After that it was easy. The difficulty was not winning by too much & raising the botlevel too much. Better driver may be able to do this without servicing, but hey, you have plenty of time. This is not an LTS, only 3 events a day (so far).

2.3 Check the starting grid before the game starts to see where Danica Patrick is. She was in pole for my race, but I read someone else's comment saying she was 3rd there. Like day 1: drafting adds up & try and keep a constant speed and distance to the Patrick car. Should be no problem. You don't actually have to be directly behind Patrick to get the drafting yards counter running. If there is a car on Patrick's bumper and you are directly behind that one, the yards count too. As the NASCAR cars are pretty simple to spin round, getting the car behind Patrick out of the way is maybe easiest.

Best to avoid contact in 2.1 & 2.3 (apart from spinning round the bots). Even when you do get spun round there is plenty of time to recover. If you are hit from behind, releasing the accelarator for a bit will get the car back in control and stop the swerving and sliding. If you are not on manual controls, a hit will usually push you right onto the infield without being able to do anything. Goes for Daytona too.

Credit: RR3 Michael P, ... and everyone else who have posted comments.

Stage 03
Tips about Daytona 500: The Great American Race Stage 03 (Team Stewart-Haas):


 *  Tips 

RR3 Michael P wrote: Continue to follow methods to slow bots down

Goal 3.1: NASCAR at Indianapolis Motor Speedway – Speedway [3 laps] (Rolling Start) - Win this event with 6 overtakes - Recommended PR48.0

Goal 3.2: Speed Record at Indianapolis Motor Speedway – Road Course [1 lap] - Win this event without going off-track - Recommended PR48.0

Goal 3.3: NASCAR at Indianapolis Motor Speedway – Speedway [3 laps] (Rolling Start) - Reach a lap time of 48 seconds on any lap - Recommended PR48.0

Goal 3.4: NASCAR at Indianapolis Motor Speedway – Speedway [4 laps] (Rolling Start) - Win this event with 10 overtakes, without being overtaken by Harvick - Recommended PR48.0


 *  Reports 

Mda201 report:

Had my car at 2232233 PR51.1
 * 3.1 - 3 Laps of Indianapolis Oval. PR 48.0. Win and overtake at least 6 times. Use the mechanic to save your bars to avoid servicing during Stage 3. Only 3 other cars, pit them to overtake and then slow to wait for them to catch up. Do this 6 times and your are done. Botting down in the process. Easy.
 * 3.2 - Speed record - Indianapolis Road Course. PR48.0 (183.1 mph for me). No going off track. Not too hard as my car was above PR
 * 3.3 - 3 Laps of Indianapolis. PR 48.0. Achieve a lap time of 48 seconds on any of the laps. Race ends as soon as you had achieved the time required (probably your second lap).
 * 3.4 - 4 Laps of Indianapolis. PR 48.0. Win the event with 10 overtakes, without being overtaken by Harvick - I recommend you back Harvick up at the start so that you have the 10 easy overtakes in a row, and possibly have fun pitting them as you go. Botting for tomorrow! Car serviced.

RR3 Michael P Report Stage 3

Device: NOX PC Emulator for Android (my 2nd device)

Pre-challenge: R$29,690,877 — 1,630 — 169/179 Cars — Level 247

Car: Ford Fusion (Stewart Haas Racing) PR48.5 11/27 (Full R$ only)

Buttons, Steering high, Brakes low and TC on, Steering Sensitivity 1. Online


 * 3.1 1st 3:08 v 3:08.3 Harvick passed all three and braked, only 2 wanted to pass, so passed them once more, long outside overtakes, then passed Partick and started to PIT them, Patrick tried to go for a pit stop! Something wrong with the AI. Used 10 bar of damage


 * 3.2 1st 183.98 mph v 183.15 Patrick took my time around the infield, then lot lose on the banking, only just made it, dab of brake before the line, once 1st was passed, it would be easier with TC off, used 4 bar of damage


 * 3.3 1st 1:41 v Patrick, lap 1 52s, lap 2 just under 48s, 1:41.0, would be much easier with TC off and brakes off too, race finished as soon as I crossed the line, I didn't have to do the 3rd lap, used 8 bar of damage


 * 3.4 1st 3:38.7 v 3:39.3 Ku. Busch, turned TC and brakes off, steering still high, managed to turn sharp right across Harvick at the start and sit there, the inside cars passed, then tried to maintain my speed, too many skids on the first two runs, finished 8th and 4th, third run was much more consistent, dab of brake going into a turn then let the car run, try and pick up a slipstream whenever possible, used all bar of damage, serviced

Reward 10

Post-challenge: R$29,741,107 — 1,640 — 169/179 Cars — Level 247

Credit: RR3 Michael P, Mda201, ... and everyone else who have posted comments.

Stage 04
Tips about Daytona 500: The Great American Race Stage 04:


 *  Tips 

RR3 Michael P wrote: Continue to follow methods to slow bots down

Goal 4.1: #Event, Track & laps# - goal? - Recommended PR??.?

<font color="#00FF00">Goal 4.2: #Event, Track & laps# - goal? - Recommended PR??.?

<font color="#00FF00">Goal 4.3: #Event, Track & laps# - goal? - Recommended PR??.?

<font color="#00FF00">Goal 4.4: #Event, Track & laps# - goal? - Recommended PR??.?

<font color="#00FF00">Goal 4.5: #Event, Track & laps# - goal? - Recommended PR??.?

RR3 Michael P wrote: Endurance events and Elimination events are particularly good to slow the bot's down for future events, next best are Drag Race events, Autocross events and Speed Snap events, see methods to slow bots down.


 *  Reports 

Credit: RR3 Michael P, ... and everyone else who have posted comments.

<font color="#FFFF00">Stage 05
Tips about Daytona 500: The Great American Race Stage 05:


 *  Tips 

RR3 Michael P wrote: Continue to follow methods to slow bots down

<font color="#00FF00">Goal 5.1: #Event, Track & laps# - goal? - Recommended PR??.?

<font color="#00FF00">Goal 5.2: #Event, Track & laps# - goal? - Recommended PR??.?

<font color="#00FF00">Goal 5.3: #Event, Track & laps# - goal? - Recommended PR??.?

<font color="#00FF00">Goal 5.4: #Event, Track & laps# - goal? - Recommended PR??.?

<font color="#00FF00">Goal 5.5: #Event, Track & laps# - goal? - Recommended PR??.?

RR3 Michael P wrote: Endurance events and Elimination events are particularly good to slow the bot's down for future events, next best are Drag Race events, Autocross events and Speed Snap events, see methods to slow bots down.


 *  Reports 

Credit: RR3 Michael P, ... and everyone else who have posted comments.

<font color="#FFFF00">Stage 06
Tips about Daytona 500: The Great American Race Stage 06:


 *  Tips 

RR3 Michael P wrote: Continue to follow methods to slow bots down

<font color="#00FF00">Goal 6.1: #Event, Track & laps# - goal? - Recommended PR??.?

<font color="#00FF00">Goal 6.2: #Event, Track & laps# - goal? - Recommended PR??.?

<font color="#00FF00">Goal 6.3: #Event, Track & laps# - goal? - Recommended PR??.?

<font color="#00FF00">Goal 6.4: #Event, Track & laps# - goal? - Recommended PR??.?

<font color="#00FF00">Goal 6.5: #Event, Track & laps# - goal? - Recommended PR??.?

<font color="#00FF00">Goal 6.6: #Event, Track & laps# - goal? - Recommended PR??.?

RR3 Michael P wrote: Endurance events and Elimination events are particularly good to slow the bot's down for future events, next best are Drag Race events, Autocross events and Speed Snap events, see methods to slow bots down.


 *  Reports 

Credit: RR3 Michael P, ... and everyone else who have posted comments.

<font color="#FFFF00">Stage 07
Tips about Daytona 500: The Great American Race Stage 07:


 *  Tips 

RR3 Michael P wrote: Continue to follow methods to slow bots down

<font color="#00FF00">Goal 7.1: #Event, Track & laps# - goal? - Recommended PR??.?

<font color="#00FF00">Goal 7.2: #Event, Track & laps# - goal? - Recommended PR??.?

<font color="#00FF00">Goal 7.3: #Event, Track & laps# - goal? - Recommended PR??.?

<font color="#00FF00">Goal 7.4: #Event, Track & laps# - goal? - Recommended PR??.?

<font color="#00FF00">Goal 7.5: #Event, Track & laps# - goal? - Recommended PR??.?

<font color="#00FF00">Goal 7.6: #Event, Track & laps# - goal? - Recommended PR??.?

RR3 Michael P wrote: Endurance events and Elimination events are particularly good to slow the bot's down for future events, next best are Drag Race events, Autocross events and Speed Snap events, see methods to slow bots down.


 *  Reports 

Credit: RR3 Michael P, ... and everyone else who have posted comments.

<font color="#F08080">Start / End Strategy
The player has 7 days to complete the 7 stages, the event is 7 days x 24 hours. The first stage will start the time the player starts it, the last stage will end # x 24 hours later. As stage 01 is normally straight forward and can be completed without an upgrade or service, it can be started late in the day, it doesn't matter if stage 01 isn't completed the first day, it can continued the following day. Stage 02, will automatically unlock at midnight, but can only be raced once stage 01 is complete. Stage 03 will unlock at midnight the following day, and so on up to stage 7. In total there will be 7 x 24 hours = 168 hours to complete all stages.

For example:

Start Saturday @ 7:30 PM the event will end 7 days x 24 hours later, Sunday @ 7:30 PM,

You need to choose the best time for you to start Daytona 500: The Great American Race event, or more importantly when is the best time for you to end the event!

RR3 Michael P wrote (pre-race tip): I wouldn't recommend starting the event on the first day, #date#, as many racers, who start as soon as the event opens, complain about bugs, which FM then fix! Instead leave the start a day or two and let other people do the bug testing. Also the tips and details can be filled in by the early adopters, so starting a day or two later gives a better heads up.

Ideally, for racers who are busy Monday to Friday and have the weekend free, the best day and time to start is as late as possible Saturday, as long as it's before midnight, meaning stage 7 of the event can be completed over two days, the following Friday and Saturday. Once started the event can be run, even if it's closed to new racers.

<font color="#F08080">Cloud Save / Restore
It is important to cloud save before every race, for full details see RR3 Wiki:Real Racing 3 Tips and FAQ

<font color="#ffff00">Strategy

 * Strategy - Including why gold is precious.

<font color="#ffff00">Time Shifted Multiplayer (TSM)

 * Time Shifted Multiplayer - TSM algorithm and AI, whys it's important to win by small margins and how to slow bots down

<font color="#FFFF00">List of Offline Bots Names
See RR3 Wiki:Real Racing 3 Tips and FAQ

<font color="#FFFF00">List of Daytona 500: The Great American Race Bots Names
This event has a different set of offline bots, that are also common to No Compromise, Light-Rider and Jaguar Legacy: XJ220:

<font color="#FFFF00">Methods to slow bots down
See RR3 Wiki:Real Racing 3 Tips and FAQ

<font color="#FFFF00">How can I service the car when I already finished the day?
If the final car service is missed, after the final event on the day, the soonest it can service is at midnight (local time), when the next stage opens.

<font color="#FFFF00">The Target is too High, How do I Reduce it?
See RR3 Wiki:Real Racing 3 Tips and FAQ

<font color="#FFFF00">The Game / Le Mans Keeps crashing
See RR3 Wiki:Real Racing 3 Tips and FAQ

<font color="#FFFF00">When is the last time I can start this Event?
The exact date is unknown, normally 1 - 2 weeks.

The way FM display the date isn't very clear, they use a rounding factor. The days and hours remaining, to start, is changing at mid day or on the half hour. The closing date and time displayed is a cautious closing date and time. Keep an eye out for adverts to start the event and watch for a countdown to start. Once started the event can be run, even if it's closed to new racers.

<font color="#FFFF00">Will this event be added to the race career?
FM went though a spell of adding special events to the racing career, the last time a special event was added was September 2015 v3.6, NASCAR Academy was added directly to the NASCAR career, without previously being released as a Time Limited Event (TLE). Previous to that was April 2015 v3.3, with Redline: Origins and MotorFiesta 1. It is therefore unlikely this event will be added to the racing career.

<font color="#FFFF00">Will the car be available to win in the future?
The Ford Fusion (Stewart Haas Racing) is available to win if the challenge is completed in ## days, after ##-### the Ford Fusion (Stewart Haas Racing) can be purchased.

<font color="#FFFF00">Can I buy the car?
The Ford Fusion (Stewart Haas Racing) is available in two series:
 * NASCAR All-Star Series career series in the in the NASCAR category.
 * Danica Patrick's Champion Cup bonus series in the NASCAR category.

This vehicle was added in the Daytona 500 2017 Update (v5.1.0) released in Feb 2017 and is unlocked as soon as Danica Patrick's Champion Cup is unlocked, or by completing the Daytona 500: The Great American Race special event.

This vehicle can be acquired for 500 without a showcase discount

<font color="#FFFF00">What is the minimum PR / upgrades required
RR3 Michael P wrote (pre-race): Since Generations, if the players car is far below the recommended PR level the bots run impossible times. Once the car is upgraded the bots return to normal times. Slowing the bots works, only when the PR requirements are close. Some goals have fixed top bots. Possible upgrade strategies:

<font color="#FFFF00">How much do the upgrades cost?
For car details see here:
 * Ford Fusion (Stewart Haas Racing)

For full details on upgrades with PR see here:
 * RR3 Wiki:Upgrades Section Ford Fusion (Stewart Haas Racing) - Direct link to the Ford Fusion (Stewart Haas Racing) project page with PR.

<font color="#F08080">Useful Pages
See RR3 Wiki:Real Racing 3 Tips and FAQ

<font color="#F08080">Benefit
Calculated benefits of the event:

(Can be calculated from the figures before starting day and figures after completion of the special challenge)

<font color="#F08080">Credit and Thanks
Many of the tips and FAQ have been combined from posts left by this RR3 wiki community, a big credit needs to go to this excellent community. Also, thank you, to everyone who have left comments and tips, for this challenge.

<font color="#F08080">Comments and Tips
If you have any tips, please either edit the relevant section of this page and add them yourself or leave comments on the Daytona 500: The Great American Race Comments and an editor will add them later.

Please post your comments and tips, any information you feel maybe useful, such as:
 * What stage and event you are leaving a tip for, this can be shortened e.g. Tip for 1.3 is for stage 01 event 3
 * What problems you had and how to overcome the problems?
 * e.g. Can corners be cut?
 * Can an event be run with a broken car?
 * If so with what PR/upgrade?
 * What controls Tilt A / B ?
 * What assists - brakes high / low /off ? TC on / off?
 * Basically any tips that maybe useful to other racers.
 * If you are anonymous feel free to sign a name or handle.

One of the editors will summarise them and add them to the relevant event, if there is anything missing please post a comment or tip to Daytona 500: The Great American Race Comments and let us know ;-)