Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26829117-20170827135907/@comment-26829117-20170828175623

A Fandom user Firstly, let me answer your criticism directly seeing as one of your criticisms is not answering criticism.
 * 1) This is a discussion about the wiki, not the game, therefore it belongs on the general discussion board not the game board.
 * 2) The visibility of any thread in the activity stream is dependent on how much activity is on it. This one was in danger of disappearing without a trace because no one has posted on it. That would be true whichever board it was posted on.
 * 3) If you view the boards via the game board or general board screens then this one would have been 5th on the general board but over 10th on the game board. I'd argue by putting it on this board, the correct board, I made it more visible. You are free to disagree.
 * 4) We were criticised for putting posts on the wrong boards and, despite still not knowing what thread this is referring to, I reviewed the threads on the game discussion board and moved two. One was not created by admins and the other was created by me way before I was an admin (as I said in response earlier, Mea Culpa, but that thread is a couple of years old). Please, if you think we have posted on the wrong boards can you identify the threads and I'll move them. No one is trying to do anything but keep this wiki appropriate.
 * 5) I clearly can't win if I post on the right board or the wrong board. However, I'm not going to post on the wrong board having been criticised for doing so (even though the only evidence I can find of this is two years old).
 * 6) We have occasionally made exceptions for discussion that are sort of game and sort of not. However, these exceptions are usually to not move the thread for a little while rather than allow it to stay on the wrong board. We don't generally start threads, we just try to keep them in line with the rules.

There is no censorship on this wiki. If you want to post something, and it is within the RR3_Wiki:Wiki_Rules then we won't touch it. We rarely remove entire posts unless they are spam or largely not respectful towards other wiki users. Generally, all we do is redact offensive words, personal information and change titles. If we think a conversation is inappropriate then we will generally post and ask people to keep it in line or move on to another subject. On rare occasions we have closed threads because they get completely off topic or just offensive (which any thread about cheating generally degenerates into quite quickly).

We did once close comments on the calendar page because it had become a "what I would like in the next release" thread and nothing we did to ask people to move the conversation to the right threads worked. As we were busy trying to create new pages for the update that had just come out we simply closed the comments (Michael found a very smart way to do it as it's not a standard feature of the wiki). However, we reopened the comments once the new update was bedded in as conversation had then moved on.

I'm not sure what else I can say on this subject except that tensions seem to be high on the wiki lately (boredom and/or frustration?). I'd really like to see it go back to the friendly helpful place it has been before this update.

One last point I think worth making, you ask me for openness and honesty, which I think you get from me all the time, whilst you hide behind an anonymous account from an IP address that has never posted on the wiki before. If you want to have an open discussion about how to improve the wiki then why don't you register, or if you are registered then engage in this discussion from your account? At the moment you appear as someone who doesn't contribute to the wiki but wants to criticise how it is managed. Your argument would carry a lot more weight if people could see you were a regular contributor as, believe it or not, they add as much, if not more, to the wiki than us lazy good for nothing administrators ;-).

Nobody here has an axe to grind, all we want is a wiki that contains as much valuable information to people playing RR3 as possible and good friendly conversations about how it might be improved. I guess one positive point to take away from this is that FM are clearly doing better as you are directing your frustration at us rather than them.