Board Thread:Game Discussion/@comment-33340837-20180115030719/@comment-34143403-20180117124350

Amrosa wrote: Nathan8848 wrote: I slide through basically every turn in the esses. There is no reason I should be in the low C, high D range with 13 / 15 uprades. Any ideas on how to run the esses better? My time is 1:38.875. (Low steering, no brake or traction, tilt b, sensivity 3).

I was a full second faster on a run, but when the finish screen apeeared, I was .375 slower than my best. Watch SpeedJunkies video. The brake points are a lot earlier than you think they would be. You have to think of the distance between apex to apex as a straight so you want to be able to accelerate as you would if was a long straight, so it means a little earlier brake straighten your nose at the apex for the exit, then accelerate. Easier said than done.

I don't know how many times I have to restate this point:

@speedjunkies brake points ONLY apply to cars with the same PR level and upgrade combination.

If your car is not FU, your brake points could be anything from slightly different to entirely different.

When I fully upgraded my MP4-X for Red Bull Ring, I literally had to re-learn the entire track. It was like driving a completely different car. In some areas there was more grip, other areas I needed to turn sharper or earlier to generate more downforce. My brakepoints had to modified by as much as 1 marker back coming from a PR 139 setup.

Unless you are doing an apples to apples comparison, you might not be getting the optimal performance out of your car.

There is no substitute for Ghosting Cars with similar PRs, that's why I get annoyed with players like Benny G:) who persist in borrowing upgrades as they are "misrepresenting" their performance and wasting peoples time.

In addition, for every corner that you improve upon, that also impacts on your brake point, because you are getting to the next corner sooner with more speed.